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2022-08-13 23:52:52 By : Ms. Claire S

Pacific Gas & Electric's Heli-Saw, a rotary-bladed, vertical device that is suspended from a helicopter by cable, is used to clear branches near power lines that could spark wildfires. Cal Fire, however, has cited the energy company for operating the device in Wunderlich Park without proper permits or regard for public safety. Screenshot via PG&E video in Currents newsletter.

Pacific Gas & Electric's Heli-Saw, a rotary-bladed, vertical device that is suspended from a helicopter by cable, is used to clear branches near power lines that could spark wildfires. Cal Fire, however, has cited the energy company for operating the device in Wunderlich Park without proper permits or regard for public safety. Screenshot via PG&E video in Currents newsletter.

by Sue Dremann / Palo Alto Weekly

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Pacific Gas and Electric is accused of using a massive saw with eight rotating blades in Wunderlich County Park in Woodside this winter, without getting permits or notifying state and county agencies, according to county officials.

The Heli-Saw, which is suspended from a helicopter and used to remove tree branches near the energy company's power lines, was spotted by San Mateo County Parks Department staff in early December. The county wasn't aware that PG&E had planned to use the saw so it hadn't limited public access to the location, a county spokeswoman said.

The incident, and a notice of violation from the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire), was first reported by NBC Bay Area on Feb. 27. Fire officials alleged that PG&E's contractor used the helicopter-saw on Dec. 9 in Wunderlich County Park in Woodside, near Skyline Boulevard. PG&E said it did the work safely and disputed the need for permits.

The Heli-Saw contains multiple buzz saws on a girder that is suspended vertically by a cable attached to a helicopter. PG&E says in a video on its website that the device can reach multiple branches in difficult-to-reach locations and can quickly clear areas that would take hand crews weeks to do. The device is used along PG&E's high-voltage power lines to help clear overgrown branches that could spark wildfires.

Carla Schoof, spokeswoman for San Mateo County Parks, said staffers discovered PG&E was using the Heli-Saw but they weren't notified. The county parks department and other land-management agencies coordinate with PG&E for vegetation management in these rural settings, using an established procedure, she said.

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"Late in 2021, we didn't have a request from PG&E and its contractor to do work. There was nothing for us to review or approve," Schoof said.

Obtaining such reviews is routine. "This is something that happens all of the time," she said, so the county doesn't understand how this slipped by. PG&E left the branches on the ground and trails, although they are clearing away the debris, she said.

State Assemblyman Marc Berman, who represents Woodside, expressed concern.

State Assembly member Marc Berman, D-Menlo Park. Courtesy Marc Berman office.

"While vegetation management is critically important to reduce forest fires, we absolutely cannot substitute safety for speed," he said in an email on Tuesday night. "I was very troubled to learn that PG&E recently received numerous notices of violation from Cal Fire, including for the unpermitted use of a Heli-Saw and for the use of heavy duty equipment on unpaved roads right after heavy rains, severely damaging roads in Wunderlich Park in my district. We must be able to clear tree limbs near high voltage wires without endangering members of the public who are taking advantage of our beautiful public open spaces."

Mayra Tostado, principal corporate communications representative for PG&E, said in an email statement that PG&E is aware that Cal Fire and San Mateo County Parks raised issues related to vegetation maintenance work on what it refers to as the Monte Vista-Jefferson transmission-line corridor within Huddart and Wunderlich Parks in San Mateo County.

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"Making sure that trees don't touch transmission lines is year-round work for PG&E and is essential to maintaining safe, reliable electric service," she said, adding that PG&E is drafting a response to both agencies.

"We have had ongoing discussions with San Mateo County and San Mateo County Parks, including verbally sharing that, as our contractor used the vertical-area tree saw on private property, which we had permission to do, they mistakenly extended the saw's use several hundred feet into Wunderlich Park. The vegetation work conducted in the park and on adjacent land included only pruning limbs with the aerial saw, and no trees were cut down," Tostado said.

As the work progressed, ground crews preceded and followed the route, and were in constant communication with the pilot of the aerial saw, she said. There were no safety issues related to the pruning within the park property, nor was the public in danger at any time, according to Tostado.

Richard Sampson, Cal Fire Forest Practice Inspector, wrote in a Dec. 16 notice of violation letter to PG&E that the Dec. 9 violations he observed were in addition to violations he first found on Nov. 24. He said it was unclear if PG&E is using licensed timber operators, as required.

"Even more concerning to me was the potential for public safety by this operation," Sampson wrote.

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While PG&E approached county parks staff to conduct similar work on neighboring properties and to use county park property as a landing zone, the agreement had not been completed and parks staff wasn't aware that the aerial-sawing operation was going to happen.

Hannah Ornshaw, assistant director of San Mateo County Parks, had specifically asked PG&E if the Heli-Saw was going to be used to cut county parks trees and was told no, Sampson said.

PG&E has a difference of opinion with Cal Fire regarding permits.

"As we've expressed to Cal Fire, PG&E's primary concern is that, in many cases, the permits that Cal Fire wants PG&E to obtain would actually prohibit or delay PG&E's ability to perform its important wildfire mitigation work," Tostado said, saying that the utility company is having conversations with Cal Fire and other state authorities to address conflicts between PG&E's state and federal obligations to perform wildfire safety work and Cal Fire's belief that it needs to obtain a harvest document or utility right-of-way exemption permit first.

A trail in Wunderlich Park. Almanac file photo taken on March 21, 2018. Photo by Michelle Le.

Sampson and county parks staff were concerned by the condition of the redwoods and other trees after the sawing. PG&E left branches between 2 and 6 feet long projecting from the trees, which were expected to die and create a fire hazard. This was in addition to the "slash" -- branches and other vegetation left on the forest floor -- that could contribute to a fire hazard, he said.

Piles of limbs were dropped in areas that blocked drainage during a 5-inch rainstorm that came through the area, Sampson said.

PG&E said it worked with San Mateo County Parks immediately following concerns about road damage done during the operation.

"PG&E rapidly responded and installed erosion mitigation measures to mitigate additional impacts. PG&E continues to work with the County Parks to develop and implement a longer-term roads restoration plan," she said.

Sampson said that continued timber operations without the appropriate permits could result in criminal charges through the San Mateo County District Attorney's office and fines of up to $10,000 per count.

Cal Fire declined to answer any additional questions pending its investigation and potential charges.

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Uploaded: Thu, Mar 3, 2022, 10:50 am Pacific Gas and Electric is accused of using a massive saw with eight rotating blades in Wunderlich County Park in Woodside this winter, without getting permits or notifying state and county agencies, according to county officials. The Heli-Saw, which is suspended from a helicopter and used to remove tree branches near the energy company's power lines, was spotted by San Mateo County Parks Department staff in early December. The county wasn't aware that PG&E had planned to use the saw so it hadn't limited public access to the location, a county spokeswoman said. The incident, and a notice of violation from the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire), was first reported by NBC Bay Area on Feb. 27. Fire officials alleged that PG&E's contractor used the helicopter-saw on Dec. 9 in Wunderlich County Park in Woodside, near Skyline Boulevard. PG&E said it did the work safely and disputed the need for permits. The Heli-Saw contains multiple buzz saws on a girder that is suspended vertically by a cable attached to a helicopter. PG&E says in a video on its website that the device can reach multiple branches in difficult-to-reach locations and can quickly clear areas that would take hand crews weeks to do. The device is used along PG&E's high-voltage power lines to help clear overgrown branches that could spark wildfires. Carla Schoof, spokeswoman for San Mateo County Parks, said staffers discovered PG&E was using the Heli-Saw but they weren't notified. The county parks department and other land-management agencies coordinate with PG&E for vegetation management in these rural settings, using an established procedure, she said. "Late in 2021, we didn't have a request from PG&E and its contractor to do work. There was nothing for us to review or approve," Schoof said. Obtaining such reviews is routine. "This is something that happens all of the time," she said, so the county doesn't understand how this slipped by. PG&E left the branches on the ground and trails, although they are clearing away the debris, she said. State Assemblyman Marc Berman, who represents Woodside, expressed concern. "While vegetation management is critically important to reduce forest fires, we absolutely cannot substitute safety for speed," he said in an email on Tuesday night. "I was very troubled to learn that PG&E recently received numerous notices of violation from Cal Fire, including for the unpermitted use of a Heli-Saw and for the use of heavy duty equipment on unpaved roads right after heavy rains, severely damaging roads in Wunderlich Park in my district. We must be able to clear tree limbs near high voltage wires without endangering members of the public who are taking advantage of our beautiful public open spaces." Mayra Tostado, principal corporate communications representative for PG&E, said in an email statement that PG&E is aware that Cal Fire and San Mateo County Parks raised issues related to vegetation maintenance work on what it refers to as the Monte Vista-Jefferson transmission-line corridor within Huddart and Wunderlich Parks in San Mateo County. "Making sure that trees don't touch transmission lines is year-round work for PG&E and is essential to maintaining safe, reliable electric service," she said, adding that PG&E is drafting a response to both agencies. "We have had ongoing discussions with San Mateo County and San Mateo County Parks, including verbally sharing that, as our contractor used the vertical-area tree saw on private property, which we had permission to do, they mistakenly extended the saw's use several hundred feet into Wunderlich Park. The vegetation work conducted in the park and on adjacent land included only pruning limbs with the aerial saw, and no trees were cut down," Tostado said. As the work progressed, ground crews preceded and followed the route, and were in constant communication with the pilot of the aerial saw, she said. There were no safety issues related to the pruning within the park property, nor was the public in danger at any time, according to Tostado. Richard Sampson, Cal Fire Forest Practice Inspector, wrote in a Dec. 16 notice of violation letter to PG&E that the Dec. 9 violations he observed were in addition to violations he first found on Nov. 24. He said it was unclear if PG&E is using licensed timber operators, as required. "Even more concerning to me was the potential for public safety by this operation," Sampson wrote. While PG&E approached county parks staff to conduct similar work on neighboring properties and to use county park property as a landing zone, the agreement had not been completed and parks staff wasn't aware that the aerial-sawing operation was going to happen. Hannah Ornshaw, assistant director of San Mateo County Parks, had specifically asked PG&E if the Heli-Saw was going to be used to cut county parks trees and was told no, Sampson said. PG&E has a difference of opinion with Cal Fire regarding permits. "As we've expressed to Cal Fire, PG&E's primary concern is that, in many cases, the permits that Cal Fire wants PG&E to obtain would actually prohibit or delay PG&E's ability to perform its important wildfire mitigation work," Tostado said, saying that the utility company is having conversations with Cal Fire and other state authorities to address conflicts between PG&E's state and federal obligations to perform wildfire safety work and Cal Fire's belief that it needs to obtain a harvest document or utility right-of-way exemption permit first. Sampson and county parks staff were concerned by the condition of the redwoods and other trees after the sawing. PG&E left branches between 2 and 6 feet long projecting from the trees, which were expected to die and create a fire hazard. This was in addition to the "slash" -- branches and other vegetation left on the forest floor -- that could contribute to a fire hazard, he said. Piles of limbs were dropped in areas that blocked drainage during a 5-inch rainstorm that came through the area, Sampson said. PG&E said it worked with San Mateo County Parks immediately following concerns about road damage done during the operation. "PG&E rapidly responded and installed erosion mitigation measures to mitigate additional impacts. PG&E continues to work with the County Parks to develop and implement a longer-term roads restoration plan," she said. Sampson said that continued timber operations without the appropriate permits could result in criminal charges through the San Mateo County District Attorney's office and fines of up to $10,000 per count. Cal Fire declined to answer any additional questions pending its investigation and potential charges.

Pacific Gas and Electric is accused of using a massive saw with eight rotating blades in Wunderlich County Park in Woodside this winter, without getting permits or notifying state and county agencies, according to county officials.

The Heli-Saw, which is suspended from a helicopter and used to remove tree branches near the energy company's power lines, was spotted by San Mateo County Parks Department staff in early December. The county wasn't aware that PG&E had planned to use the saw so it hadn't limited public access to the location, a county spokeswoman said.

The incident, and a notice of violation from the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire), was first reported by NBC Bay Area on Feb. 27. Fire officials alleged that PG&E's contractor used the helicopter-saw on Dec. 9 in Wunderlich County Park in Woodside, near Skyline Boulevard. PG&E said it did the work safely and disputed the need for permits.

The Heli-Saw contains multiple buzz saws on a girder that is suspended vertically by a cable attached to a helicopter. PG&E says in a video on its website that the device can reach multiple branches in difficult-to-reach locations and can quickly clear areas that would take hand crews weeks to do. The device is used along PG&E's high-voltage power lines to help clear overgrown branches that could spark wildfires.

Carla Schoof, spokeswoman for San Mateo County Parks, said staffers discovered PG&E was using the Heli-Saw but they weren't notified. The county parks department and other land-management agencies coordinate with PG&E for vegetation management in these rural settings, using an established procedure, she said.

"Late in 2021, we didn't have a request from PG&E and its contractor to do work. There was nothing for us to review or approve," Schoof said.

Obtaining such reviews is routine. "This is something that happens all of the time," she said, so the county doesn't understand how this slipped by. PG&E left the branches on the ground and trails, although they are clearing away the debris, she said.

State Assemblyman Marc Berman, who represents Woodside, expressed concern.

"While vegetation management is critically important to reduce forest fires, we absolutely cannot substitute safety for speed," he said in an email on Tuesday night. "I was very troubled to learn that PG&E recently received numerous notices of violation from Cal Fire, including for the unpermitted use of a Heli-Saw and for the use of heavy duty equipment on unpaved roads right after heavy rains, severely damaging roads in Wunderlich Park in my district. We must be able to clear tree limbs near high voltage wires without endangering members of the public who are taking advantage of our beautiful public open spaces."

Mayra Tostado, principal corporate communications representative for PG&E, said in an email statement that PG&E is aware that Cal Fire and San Mateo County Parks raised issues related to vegetation maintenance work on what it refers to as the Monte Vista-Jefferson transmission-line corridor within Huddart and Wunderlich Parks in San Mateo County.

"Making sure that trees don't touch transmission lines is year-round work for PG&E and is essential to maintaining safe, reliable electric service," she said, adding that PG&E is drafting a response to both agencies.

"We have had ongoing discussions with San Mateo County and San Mateo County Parks, including verbally sharing that, as our contractor used the vertical-area tree saw on private property, which we had permission to do, they mistakenly extended the saw's use several hundred feet into Wunderlich Park. The vegetation work conducted in the park and on adjacent land included only pruning limbs with the aerial saw, and no trees were cut down," Tostado said.

As the work progressed, ground crews preceded and followed the route, and were in constant communication with the pilot of the aerial saw, she said. There were no safety issues related to the pruning within the park property, nor was the public in danger at any time, according to Tostado.

Richard Sampson, Cal Fire Forest Practice Inspector, wrote in a Dec. 16 notice of violation letter to PG&E that the Dec. 9 violations he observed were in addition to violations he first found on Nov. 24. He said it was unclear if PG&E is using licensed timber operators, as required.

"Even more concerning to me was the potential for public safety by this operation," Sampson wrote.

While PG&E approached county parks staff to conduct similar work on neighboring properties and to use county park property as a landing zone, the agreement had not been completed and parks staff wasn't aware that the aerial-sawing operation was going to happen.

Hannah Ornshaw, assistant director of San Mateo County Parks, had specifically asked PG&E if the Heli-Saw was going to be used to cut county parks trees and was told no, Sampson said.

PG&E has a difference of opinion with Cal Fire regarding permits.

"As we've expressed to Cal Fire, PG&E's primary concern is that, in many cases, the permits that Cal Fire wants PG&E to obtain would actually prohibit or delay PG&E's ability to perform its important wildfire mitigation work," Tostado said, saying that the utility company is having conversations with Cal Fire and other state authorities to address conflicts between PG&E's state and federal obligations to perform wildfire safety work and Cal Fire's belief that it needs to obtain a harvest document or utility right-of-way exemption permit first.

Sampson and county parks staff were concerned by the condition of the redwoods and other trees after the sawing. PG&E left branches between 2 and 6 feet long projecting from the trees, which were expected to die and create a fire hazard. This was in addition to the "slash" -- branches and other vegetation left on the forest floor -- that could contribute to a fire hazard, he said.

Piles of limbs were dropped in areas that blocked drainage during a 5-inch rainstorm that came through the area, Sampson said.

PG&E said it worked with San Mateo County Parks immediately following concerns about road damage done during the operation.

"PG&E rapidly responded and installed erosion mitigation measures to mitigate additional impacts. PG&E continues to work with the County Parks to develop and implement a longer-term roads restoration plan," she said.

Sampson said that continued timber operations without the appropriate permits could result in criminal charges through the San Mateo County District Attorney's office and fines of up to $10,000 per count.

Cal Fire declined to answer any additional questions pending its investigation and potential charges.

This looks to be a great invention to permit much faster clearing of the high voltage right of way. It is way faster that manually cutting and more effective. The concern about the branches being left is not a big deal, considering having the forest burn down is a far worse situation. Yes, PG&E should have gotten permits and addressed safety issues first. But there should be no obstacles to using the machine. The issue is clear. Do you want to increase fire safety by clearing the right of way? Let's not get in such a tizzy over this and keep clearing going.

This method of haphazardly trimming tree branches is absurd. This method will result in damage to the trees in a haphazard fashion and is a huge danger to the helicopter pilot dangling the large rotating blades if they are "blown" into the high voltage lines is pure craziness! (Death to the pilot and a fire from the helicopter crash!) Wow, PG&E never ceases to amaze me with their unsafe practices. The tree clearing (in a WIDE swatch around and under the high voltage lines) should be done with a crew and gas-powered saws "initially" and then ongoing clearing of brush/small vegetation be cleared on a routine schedule so the trees do not grow close enough to hit the high voltage lines. Tree clearing maintenance should be ongoing, year-round in all of the western states that have the trees so near to high voltage lines in order to end the fires being sparked from tree limbs hitting the wires. PG&E is just trying to do a quick, sloppy job in a very dangerous way. PG&E, I say, "Do it right the first time." "There are no short-cuts to do this job correctly. What are you thinking!? Additionally, your "dangling blade method" will leave the forest floors a huge mess of broken trees and wood debris that fuels even more fires.

People getting into "a tizzy"? I should think so! Bear Gulch Road is adjacent to Wunderlich Park, and any fire caused by PG&E carelessness would endanger the lives and homes of nearby residents.

Menlo Cyclist: They've been flying helicopters close to high tension lines for decades. It very interesting to watch. A worker sits on a platform and the helicopter approaches the live line. The helicopter hovers and the worker clamps a cable connecting the helicopter to the live high tension line. Then the worker does his work while the helicopter hovers next to the high tension cables. That is far more hazardous than the clearing with the dangling saw. Watch this: Web Link">Web Link And this: Web Link">Web Link And if you're actually interested in how the flying tree saw works, watch this: Web Link

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